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如何评价马頔《南山南》

2013年01月27日 14:18:05 苏内容
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歌词

他不再和谁谈论相逢的孤岛,因为心里早已荒芜人烟
他的心里再装不下一个家,做一个只对自己说谎的哑巴,他说
你任何为人称道的美丽,不及他第一次遇见你
时光苟延残喘无可奈何
如果所有土地连在一起,走上一生只为拥抱你
喝醉了他的梦,晚安

他听见有人唱着古老的歌,唱着今天还在远方发生的
像是在她眼睛里看到的孤岛,没有悲伤但也没有花朵
你在南方的艳阳里大雪纷飞,我在北方的寒夜里四季如春
如果天黑之前来得及,我要忘了你的眼睛
穷极一生做不完一场梦
大梦初醒荒唐了一生

南山南,北秋悲
南山有谷堆
南风喃 ,北海北
北海有墓碑


《南山南》再次走红之后,很多人抨击这首歌矫情而低级,其实这首歌非但不矫情,而且具有很深的社会意义,它可能是传唱度最高的一首反传销歌曲,讲述了一个青年从深圳南山被骗到广西北海从事传销事业的悲惨故事,发人深省。接下来我深度为大家解析一下这首歌。 说到广西北海,很多人第一个想到的就是美丽的银滩,椰林树影,美不胜收,而很多人不知道的是,北海同时也是传销组织盘踞,发生着一个又一个的传销悲剧,《南山南》讲述的,就是发生在北海众多故事中的一个。 歌曲由“你在南方的艳阳里,大雪纷飞 我在北方的寒夜里,四季如春 如果天黑之前来得及,我要忘了你的眼睛 穷极一生,做不完一场梦”开始,这一段歌词贯穿始终,奠定了整个作品的基调,哀伤,遗憾。 他不再和谁谈论相逢的孤岛——作者在旅游的时候偶遇传销组织成员,地点是孤岛,根据民谣歌手的属性判断,这个孤岛应该就是鼓浪屿。 因为心里早已荒无人烟——从上一句的过去跳跃到现在,强烈对比出在加入传销组织之后作者的内心荒芜与寂寞。 他的心里再装不下一个家——和所有传销组织一样,作者加入的这个传销组织首先也是从家人下手,骗光亲朋好友的钱。 做一个只对自己说谎的哑巴——然而作者并没有屈服,他没有像其他人一样欺骗家人,他选择了沉默,让这场骗局止于自己。 他说你任何为人称道的美丽不及他第一次遇见你——本段主要讲述传销组织的洗脑手法,通过糖衣炮弹的轰炸,试图用自己与受害者的友情乃至亲情感化受害者,让受害者从事传销事业。 时光苟延残喘无可奈何——在这种糖衣炮弹的轰炸下,作者感觉自己有些动摇了,他仍然在顽强的抵抗,但已经是苟延残喘,无可奈何。可见传销组织洗脑能力是多么强大。 如果所有土地连在一起,走上一生只为拥抱你——然而作者并没有屈服,他选择了逃跑,他翻越过传销组织的高墙,跨过河流,“所有土地都连在一起”他坚信,自己走上一生终归是可以逃离的,然而, 喝醉了他的梦,晚安——这是一句呓语,表示作者处于昏迷状态,前边我们说他逃离传销组织,难道路上喝酒了?不是的,是被传销组织成员追上来打昏了,昏迷中他以为自己喝醉了,然而不幸的是,他又被捉回了传销组织。 他听见有人唱着古老的歌——这首歌的名字叫做《不要认为自己没有用》,在传销组织中流传颇广,每天都会早起做操,之后高唱“不要总是认为自己没有用,不要老是坐在那里看天空,如果你自己都不愿意动,还有谁可以帮助你成功,不要认为自己没有用,不要让自卑左右你向前冲,每个人的贡献都不同,也许你就是最好的那一种 ”从这里我们可以看出作者已经被抓回了传销组织。 唱着今天还在远方发生的——在写下这首歌的时候,传销,还在各处发生着,每天都有人唱着《不要认为自己没有用》在做着传销,作者表示出了他的担忧。 就在他眼睛里看到的孤岛,没有悲伤但也没有花朵——回忆起在鼓浪屿上当受骗的过程,作者的内心一片暗淡,谈不上悲伤,但也不快乐,传销磨灭了他的情感,他的内心已经荒芜。 你在南方的艳阳里 大雪纷飞 我在北方的寒夜里 四季如春——为什么南方的艳阳里大雪纷纷呢?因为感觉自己的人生已经无望,从事传销就像是走入绝境,即便南方艳阳高照,内心也是冰冷的,而如果能够逃离,哪怕是去最寒冷的大兴安岭,内心会像是春天一样,在这一段里,作者表示了自己对于脱离传销组织的强烈渴望。 如果天黑之前来得及 我要忘了你的眼睛——再次回忆起自己上当受骗的过程,都只不过是因为在鼓浪屿跟人多说了一句话,如果一切能重来,我希望一切从未发生过。 穷极一生 做不完一场梦 大梦初醒荒唐了这一生——人对于财富的欲望是无穷的,对于这种空花幻梦可以追逐一生,然而当你醒悟的时候才会发现,这一切都是泡影,让你的人生荒诞不经,作者在这里表达了历经绝望和幻灭后的出世思想。 南山南,北秋悲 南山有谷堆 南风喃 ,北海北 北海有墓碑——在歌曲的最后一段,歌者反复吟唱,南山南北海北,表达了他对于故乡,深圳南山区的思念,而“谷堆”这一意象可以参考“我们坐在高高的谷堆旁边,听妈妈讲那过去的事情”,表达了作者对于故乡和母亲的思念,而北海有墓碑则在控诉北海传销组织的残暴,呼吁大家远离传销组织,不然就是死路一条。 珍爱生命,远离传销。


没翻到几个好好说音乐的,那我就来说说音乐吧,结尾有私货。

《南山南》直接以副歌作为开头进入,比较容易抓住听众的耳朵。IV-V-III-VI-II-V-I的和声编排虽然很常见,但是常见就有常见的道理,它确实能吸引人的耳朵,这套和声的骨架是下属和弦-属和弦-主和弦,是一个逐渐稳定的进行,具有良好的音响效果。

副歌过后,进入了主歌部分。我感觉马頔的这首歌应该先摸出来了副歌的一段动机,觉得挺好听,然后主歌就随便拿一个和声框架凑了段旋律。I-V-VI-II-V-I的进行配上那么平坦的旋律实在是没什么可评价的。歌词也甚是牵强,几个意象用的比较突兀,有一些为了意境而意境的感觉。

中间部分插了一段时断时续的老唱片,我觉得创意还不错,但是处理的不好,很突兀的扰乱了氛围,应该是为了呼应后面的“他听见有人唱着古老的歌”。

结论,一首中规中矩的流行民谣,副歌的旋律还是比较有记忆点的,虽然歌词无聊,但是我对歌词一向很大度。

 

写在结尾,

不要说知乎音乐完了,还有好多像我这样愿意说点音乐的人呢。只不过是喜欢听故事的人越来越多罢了,专注于音乐本身的人就看起来变少了。

这种民谣歌曲对于大多数听惯了成人抒情而又想听听不同曲风的听众来说是对胃口的。首先,它在内容上讲的依旧是成人抒情,但是作者用了很多意象来营造画面感,这一点是区别于成人抒情的。它起到了让好多人“耳目一新”的过渡作用,从一定程度上扩展了听众的曲库,对审美的进步是具有积极意义的,我很乐意看到越来越多的人喜欢这些Indie Music,无论这些音乐是否优秀,他们的走红都代表着听众审美的多元化,这是一种好现象。

 

多少人满屏引用[你在南方的艳阳里大雪纷飞我在北方的寒夜里四季如春]和我们初中的时候用火星文在空间里写郭敬明的[我四十五度仰望天空眼角的泪水明媚而忧伤]是如出一辙的心态???
更高级别的装逼还是装逼。


民谣界的小苹果倒还真不是黑他马啪啪。
2014年11月孤岛巡演到杭州,作为脑残粉,我去看了。马啪啪说,我也不知道是不是该高兴,民谣界的爱情买卖出自宋胖子,民谣界的小苹果是我写的[大意]。
看完那场,我就确定自己再不会看马啪啪的巡演了。
从南山南开始,或者更早,民谣进入一个怪圈。
马頔他说,我们这辈音乐人是搭了自媒体的顺风车。
当所有网络平台的使用门槛都在大幅降低,后果就是原本小众的,或者片面的说,精英的文化,被逼着向大众的,媚俗的文化,堕落。
豆瓣诸多老用户的出走证明了这一点。
当然我并不是说,这些人不该为大众所知。玩民谣的要吃饭,玩摇滚的要吃饭。我很喜欢我爱的音乐被更多人欣赏。问题在于,这帮人只是用我爱的音乐在装逼。


现在这些小朋友啊,哪里来的真喜欢。跟风罢了。

宋冬野最好的作品并不是董小姐。可是2014上半年的某次音乐节,宋冬野作为麻油叶里唯一一个站在大舞台上的人,面前人山人海,人山人海里,不到百分之20的人会跟着他唱梦遗少年。倒是董小姐的前奏一出,所有人都立刻高潮了。
哦,那时候马啪啪还不红。他和13和贰佰站在最小最磕碜的舞台上,底下只有30个听众。但我是多么喜欢那时候的氛围。不起哄不张扬,尽管音箱如此之烂,所有人都静静的听他们唱歌。

后来马頔火了,民谣火了。于是这些所谓民谣与我再无感情。曾经它们代表了我心里的隐秘角落,是一个不曾相识的人能懂我内心孤独的惊喜相逢。如今它们死了。吉他一背,小伙子可以骗炮了,果儿们一边为艺术献身一边往朋友圈里发直播。

[对了,专辑的编曲那叫一个难听!!!]

今天李志和马頔的撕逼终于告一段落。李志讽刺马老板的粉丝大多脑残,我虽不喜欢他讲话里满满的优越感,但话糙理不糙,我觉得他说的特有道理。同理适用于逃跑计划和好妹妹。

离题千里。欢迎折叠。

 

【我这篇答案是用来炫的,但更主要是为了写给当时的高票答案的,不是为了炮轰问题的。所以在评论下面只会BBBB的可以歇歇了。我是屌丝,但比你厉害,所以不需要装,谢谢。】

世上有两种「过分解读」甚至「恶意揣测」的极端文字品鉴是可恶的,一种可能出现在语文考试阅读题里,而另一种就是目前最高票的答案。如果你硬想知道其中区别却智商不能,以下文字可以不用继续阅读了。

前一种不说,单说后一种。就好比别人买了个iPhone,你说「不就是沙子做的吗?」;别人买了袋精砂糖,你说「不就是满满的C吗?」

我给你两袋沙子你打个电话来看看?我给你块黑炭你也给我来个甜蜜的负担看看?

我的意思是,排名第一的答案的理解,就是将一个有肉有灵的完体,按照自己扭曲的欣赏观,毫不在意地捡起,胡乱地撕裂成一个四不像般地曲枝残壳,然后用这个自己审美的豆腐渣工程造出的东西,道貌岸然地说这代表着其本体如何如何。是的,虽然答主亮明了自己屌丝的身份,不亮我们也能看得出来。问题整个答案不还是为了说这歌儿屌丝吗!不管你答案真伪,首先对作品的大不敬真的欠砍。

每个人都有发表自己观点的权利,这没错。但在这之前,请先摸着良心看看你说的东西对得起人家的作品吗。

不想说太多戾气的东西,不代表反智就应当哗众取宠甚至大行其道。

我突然想到知乎上之前一个问题上有一个人说:「30岁之前男性不要上淘宝买太多衣服,因为那样会影响你的穿着审美!」他还舔脸说是亲身经历以警示后人。

对此我的回应写在此:自己品味Low别让别人跟你一起做普遍公理,别人淘宝淘的是方便,你淘的是cheap。是的,大多数的别人和你不一样,ur vali vali cheap!

同理该题。

很多人矫情,问我「你也没有回答问题啊,你说那么一堆是为了什么?」

我的答案发表的之上的观点,其意义远不是局限于评价云云此类话题本身疆界的。如何评价马頔《南山南》? - 克KekkEKe 的回答当中的观点明确:

知乎音乐是死了。

这句话沉重且敦实,说是反对最高票的答案,我倒更想是感慨知乎的嬗递。

我曾经幻想过关于知乎音乐圈子的种种:借着Laura Marling的歌词讨论起英式民谣词的基本格式,看着Avicii在DJ 100排行榜掉出前三也能饶有兴致的兴起一场新老派粉丝的争论(Martin Garrix vs Armin Van Buuren之类),听到首烂大街的网络红曲还会有专业人士告诉你里面采样了段值得探究的吉他指弹,得知南非单曲榜依然被网球场自拍(《Rafael》MV by Beatenberg)横行了数个月我们来聊聊南非当下的流行音乐......

我说这些又有什么用呢?

我想到的知乎音乐的圈子不是没有玩笑的冷艳高贵,而是至少有些料的心照不宣。哪怕是黑,也请你拿出点音乐视角的"黑"的态度来。就好比看到Justin Bieber,请不要仅仅用你那半瞎的眼睛哗众取宠般地说只看到了两个如同男性生殖器的首字母,好吗?哪怕你查查资料,知道有什么他的黑历史,稍微的了解些什么,而不是凭空意淫,好吗?

你觉得我上一段话是笑话,但就是这样,说两个例子:知乎关于挪威音乐的讨论近乎为零,而Calvin Harris的新专辑《Motion》的讨论也近乎是自娱自乐。而就这两个方面在AcFun上的评论数和其探讨内容都能分分钟压死知乎。你觉得这两个小方面很无聊?那只是你们无聊,从挪威的小清新延伸到欧视,再延伸到20余参赛国的音乐特色,为何瑞典是欧视冠军强势国,哪些国家爱出奇葩,各类奇葩神曲又有何特色;而根据《Motion》,你要聊聊专辑内大半稳健牌以外还有哪些用了些新鲜尝试、Calvin Harris和前期相比究竟有哪些变化、跟Dillon Francis、Steve Aoki、David Guetta新作相比如何、至少17国登顶的该张专辑究竟是靠哪首单曲成就的、除了这专和Taylor Swift能够两首单曲同时制霸各国单曲榜,今年还有哪些如此表现优秀的Artists.......

你要听到的是这样的讨论。而不是:Afrojack胖了,一个月没剪头脑型都变成Steve Aoki了、Ed Sheeran就是个屌丝,我去蓝翔技校学洗剪吹的时候第一个练手的假发模子就是他那个衰神就是他这样的,所以他怎么厉害都是那个样子,我中专时候有个同伴同学也是这样;《安河桥北》就是个没出息的傻X意淫,我当年为了我前男友堕胎,我就在想要是他敢抛弃我我就把他从芬水沟上推下沟儿里.....(编了一大串自己梦遗出的胡话,往歌词上黏贴,看似每句话都合情合理,看似歌词每句话说的都是他,但实际上跟你有两毛钱关系)

对于这道问题,如何评价马頔《南山南》? - 徐筑秋的回答是很不错的诠释了。

如果一首歌词,你不知道其中的真实背景,那就请拿起当做一首诗。如果你读不懂,你知道它美,那就请你闭眼盎然。如果你不知道它美,并且你也不知道为何不知道它美,那就请闭嘴。

我最后想对那些对世界看不惯总是盼不得别人好的愤青屌丝反智派们说一句:如果你能力有限发现不到世界的美,那就拜托用您高超的意淫技能空造些世界上的美,因为这世界确实比你们的视角要美太多,好吗?

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